Why isn't Baam as Overpowered as Enryu was? (2024)

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Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #1

We know that outside' god's power/essence entered Baam's body reviving him and he is destined to beat Zahard

--Enryu who was simply messenger of outside god was able to kill an administrator , making him more powerful than Zahard/FH

Obviously baam at EOS will be stronger but why was he not stronger than enryu from the start?

(Correct me if I am misremembering something)

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Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #2

@Kiibou

Kiibou

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  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #3

God’s power could be anything

It’s not like Bam is another projection of the god, he was simply bestowed a god’s power. It’s probably his black devouring powers. He still has to build up his power.

Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #4

Kiibou said:

God’s power could be anything

It’s not like Bam is another projection of the god, he was simply bestowed a god’s power. It’s probably his black devouring powers. He still has to build up his power.

Yeah but someone who works under outside god was OP. Baam more likely is its manifestation and still had to start from scratch for some reason.

Kiibou

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  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #5

Kaido D. Monster said:

Yeah but someone who works under outside god was OP. Baam more likely is its manifestation and still had to start from scratch for some reason.

For all we know, Zahard and the 10 Leaders were students in charge of janitorial duties. Enryu’s position as messenger is actuallt very impressive. He is God’s spokesperson or representative.

And I highly doubt Bam is a God’s manifestation, those axis user are so powerful they probably see non-axis as bugs.

Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #6

Kiibou said:

For all we know, Zahard and the 10 Leaders were students in charge of janitorial duties. Enryu’s position as messenger is actuallt very impressive. He is God’s spokesperson or representative.

And I highly doubt Bam is a God’s manifestation, those axis user are so powerful they probably see non-axis as bugs.

It depends on what the god did to baam. If it only healed him and brought to life + give him some of his powers , its fine. But baam is called monster by rachel and it can also be that the outside god is now residing with baam or something like that. If that is the case it make no sense why baam started so weak early on.

Illusory

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #7

Maybe the outside God planted a seed of his power that takes some time to be nurtured, albeit not much in comparison to everybody else. How old is Baam anyway? Is he legit 17-years-old and only below FH-level at this point?

Kiibou

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  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #8

Kaido D. Monster said:

It depends on what the god did to baam. If it only healed him and brought to life + give him some of his powers , its fine. But baam is called monster by rachel and it can also be that the outside god is now residing with baam or something like that. If that is the case it make no sense why baam started so weak early on.

There’s simply no reason for that God to reside within Bam. That god is probably at the level of, “he can do whatever he wants to the tower and get away with it” level. It’s definitely more the case of Baam being revived and gifted a power through Arlene’s pious prayers.

Kiibou

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  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #9

Illusory said:

Maybe the outside God planted a seed of his power that takes some time to be nurtured, albeit not much in comparison to everybody else. How old is Baam anyway? Is he legit 18-years-old and only below FH-level at this point?

Bam must be very old. Arlene left the tower ages ago and revived Bam. He’s not young at all.

Illusory

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  • Apr 14, 2024
  • #10

Kiibou said:

Bam must be very old. Arlene left the tower ages ago and revived Bam. He’s not young at all.

I meant since he entered the tower. His body and seemingly his age before that point was in a state of stasis power-wise and age-wise.

Most likely, he was a baby-corpse for however many thousands of years, revived, discovered by Rachel, and not long after went into the tower.

DeVision

I'll make him an offer he can't refuse.

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  • Apr 15, 2024
  • #11

It's a huge mystery, but I always thought the outside god, which Arlene knew/belived in, revived Baam and gave him power. A small portion with the potential to grow.

Fel1x

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  • Apr 15, 2024
  • #12

clearly OG did something not because he is that generous or kind. he had a reason

he could just send multiple Enryu's to destroy the tower. but even why?

most likely OG saw the potential and wanted to make Baam an axis. and in order to become one, he has to start from the bottom

why he need an axis? who knows

KennethLT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2024
  • #13

"Simply a messenger of god"

Meaning he is the gabriel equivalent and a divine entity himself. Enryu is an actual angel. There is a reason he is so powerful.

people see the words "messenger" and for some reason assume their status is somehow not impressive?

Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 15, 2024
  • #14

KennethLT said:

"Simply a messenger of god"

Meaning he is the gabriel equivalent and a divine entity himself. Enryu is an actual angel. There is a reason he is so powerful.

people see the words "messenger" and for some reason assume their status is somehow not impressive?

God >> His messenger/angel

Shadowlord123

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  • Apr 15, 2024
  • #15

You can't expect a newborn baby to master the power of a God from the get-go.

Also, there needs to be a plot.

KennethLT

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  • Apr 15, 2024
  • #16

Kaido D. Monster said:

God >> His messenger/angel

Yes. But what is that to do with anything?

Baam isnt god, he was only gifted powers by him.

You have the wrong idea. Thats the problem.

Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 15, 2024
  • #17

KennethLT said:

Yes. But what is that to do with anything?

Baam isnt god, he was only gifted powers by him.

You have the wrong idea. Thats the problem.

We don't know. God's power has entered baam. Now if it only revived him and give him a small part of it's power its understandable. But if god himself resides with baam , its a plot hole. Rachel called baam monster for a reason and said even arlen a FH called baam a monster.

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DeVision

I'll make him an offer he can't refuse.

Why isn't Baam as Overpowered as Enryu was? (40)Godfather

  • Apr 16, 2024
  • #18

Kaido D. Monster said:

We don't know. God's power has entered baam. Now if it only revived him and give him a small part of it's power its understandable. But if god himself resides with baam , its a plot hole. Rachel called baam monster for a reason and said even arlen a FH called baam a monster.

Well.. A zombie (something that was dead and came back to life) technically is a monster.

icyBankai

They see me drippin .. they hatin
  • Apr 16, 2024
  • #19

Bam should eventually be as OP as Enryu/Urek/FHs. Dude has the seemingly limitless potential to absorb and assimilate all powers given to him by the sun.

It's probably a narrative choice. If Bam were OP from the start it would attract a different audience and eliminate tension.

We already have One Punch man. It's fun to watch Bam take Ls but ultimately grow Why isn't Baam as Overpowered as Enryu was? (42)

Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 16, 2024
  • #20

icyBankai said:

It's probably a narrative choice. If Bam were OP from the start it would attract a different audience and eliminate tension.

Yeah this is obviously main reason when looking from out verse perspective. I was simply curious about this in general and inverse reason behind it.

Medeia

on a Forums Break
  • Apr 16, 2024
  • #21

Because this isn't and never was supposed to be a Isekai or other fantasy story following the journey of a maxed out main character from the start, even if it would make somewhat sense for Bam to be despite being in a cryostasis for thousands of years and being mentally like a small child. Pretty simple explanation.

Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 16, 2024
  • #22

Medeia said:

Because this isn't and never was supposed to be a Isekai or other fantasy story following the journey of a maxed out main character from the start, even if it would make somewhat sense for Bam to be despite being in a cryostasis for thousands of years and being mentally like a small child. Pretty simple explanation.

I mean this is obvious. I was talking for an inverse reason for it.

Medeia

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  • Apr 17, 2024
  • #23

Kaido D. Monster said:

I mean this is obvious. I was talking for an inverse reason for it.

The closest you will probably ever get as a reason to "justify" Bams low initial strength instead of being OP from get go is Bams mental state while being trapped in that cave for who knows how long after his resurrection until he entered the Tower. But hey maybe SIU somehow gives us a additional compelling reason other than that, but i wouldn't bet on it.

Oda

Best-selling mangaka of all time
  • Apr 21, 2024
  • #24

I just finished reading the Hell Train Arc and...

Enryu's legend is godly Why isn't Baam as Overpowered as Enryu was? (48)

I was getting shivers down my spine reading how he painted the entire floor Red with the Adminstrator's blood Why isn't Baam as Overpowered as Enryu was? (49)

Jesus this guy is insane... I am actually more curious about him than the other top tiers including Urek and Zahad now.

Kaido D. Monster

R1 Ulquiorra >> R2 Yammy/R1 Starrk
  • Apr 21, 2024
  • #25

Ushiromiya Battler said:

I just finished reading the Hell Train Arc and...

Enryu's legend is godly Why isn't Baam as Overpowered as Enryu was? (51)

I was getting shivers down my spine reading how he painted the entire floor Red with the Adminstrator's blood Why isn't Baam as Overpowered as Enryu was? (52)

Jesus this guy is insane... I am actually more curious about him than the other top tiers including Urek and Zahad now.

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Why isn't Baam as Overpowered as Enryu was? (2024)

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Is Bam stronger than Enryu? ›

Enryu was an adult, servant of some divinity and is probably stronger than Baam will ever be. Baam has been resurrected but he is still comparable to the FHs and Urek in terms of potential. Even now Baam is a teenager by Tower standards. There is no reason to believe that Baam will surpass Enryu in the future TBH.

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Is Enryu the strongest in Tower of God? ›

As this is something that, according to SIU, not even Zahard is capable of achieving even if he tries with all his power, this feat marks Enryu as the second most powerful being in the whole Tower, with only the Axis Phantaminum being his superior.

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Is Bam stronger than Jahad? ›

Baam seems far weaker than any other (known) Irregular that has entered the Tower so even when he makes it to the top he'd still be below Zahard. 2. If Baam was to become stronger than Zahard, he would be by extension stronger than anyone in FUG, meaning that it would be impossible to force him to kill the King.

Is bam stronger than white? ›

(Facing Baam's Black Orb) "I will have to admit it. That boy right now.. is stronger than me!

Is Enryu still alive? ›

Enryu disappeared and since then his location is unknown. He left behind a huge red fragment, called the Thorn. It is rumoured that the Thorn is the weapon destined to kill Jahad. It is speculated that Enryu has a connection with Arlene Grace, the object of Jahad's affections, wife of V and the mother of 25th Bam.

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Finally, Enryu is regarded as the second-highest Ranker overall, being one rank above Jahad himself. An Irregular who was the first to enter the Tower during Jahad's rule, his nickname Administrator Murderer instantly proves just how powerful the enigmatic force can be.

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Enryu used this attack to overpower and kill the 43rd floor's Administrator, definitively proving Floor Administrators were not invincible. Currently, Enryu is ranked as the second strongest fighter in the Tower, the first being the monstrously vicious Phantaminum.

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Bam is very good in hand to hand combat, and that makes him a formidable opponent to anyone he might face off with. While Khun is certainly no slouch in this department, he would definitely have his hands full with Bam, whose skills are definitely superior to Khun's own.

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However, he was able to accomplish this as a C-Rank Regular, whereas Adori only defeated a Ranker as an A-Rank Regular. Additionally, unlike Adori, who was only ever known to beat a single Ranker as a Regular, Baam has faced and defeated several Rankers and has even defeated a High Ranker (Gado).

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